The Hare Versus the Tortoise Retold with Joe Sanok

Interview by
Dr. Chad Prevost
Dr. Shelley Prevost
Published on
August 14, 2023

In this episode

Joe Sanok is a productivity researcher, business consultant, and creator of the popular The Practice of the Practice podcast. Let’s just say Joe gets a lot done, but he does manage to do this with his ideas of hard and soft boundaries and clearly delineating the lines between what is work and what is play. There is a lot to learn from Joe, his approach, and the initiatives he’s started through his book and from his programs.

Joe shares with us that if we say we want to figure out how to focus more on what’s important when it’s time to focus, we need to prioritize when we’re working and when we’re going to boundary time for play. We learn how to apply these principles to customize them for your own situation to be more productive at work while enjoying more leisure time.

Our Discussion

The story of the tortoise and the hare. 6:25

Tortoise and hare story.

Hare did it right, but they didn't have the right tools.

Adopt a learner’s mindset. 9:47

Experimentations on the book.

How to avoid burnout by going rock climbing. 15:23

Why is it important to take action? 18:02

The three p’s of podcast launch. 22:24

Podcast launch school, podcast launch school.

The three p's, pain, product and value.

The full humanity of our life experience. 31:00

Tell us about Slowdown School. 34:19

Joe’s curiosity test. 38:32

Guest Speakers

Joe Sanok