Is Change Possible without Awareness? with Reut Schwartz-Hebron

Interview by
Dr. Chad Prevost
Dr. Shelley Prevost
Published on
September 4, 2023

In this episode

Reut Schwartz-Hebron was born in Jerusalem. She is a Certifying Partner at KCI (KeyChange Institute). She is a leading expert at the intersection of neuroscience and challenging change.

Reut trains and certifies change leaders to use Neuroscience-based models to support people through transitions.

Today we discuss her opinions about everything related to the personality and whether or not we really can change.

Spoiler alert: We can change--and maybe for a lot longer than you ever imagined.

But why? and how?

Our Discussion

How we interact with discomfort associated with change. 9:49

Most people aren't going to be moved to want to dig deep until something is failing or not working with their pre-frontal projected rehearsed self.

Think of discomfort as a nourishment. 15:34

The first mountain of life, the first mountain, the second mountain, and how to move forward on it.

Why awareness is not a requirement for transformation. 20:22

Awareness has a wonderful role in our lives and is supportive of transformative processes, but it is not a requirement from a neuroscience perspective.

Being more aware is an explicit function. 27:00

Awareness is an explicit system function, and without awareness, certain exercises will transform.

Addiction is not black and white. There is a chemical aspect to addiction, which means that certain people after they have been addicted long enough or have used substances.

How do you avoid discomfort? 34:44

The idea of neuroplasticity.

Personality is a construct of current preferences.

How long does it take to change an organizational pattern? 44:22

Kindness is not a naivete. It's a powerhouse.

You can change simple as you can change. 48:39

Kindness has nothing to do with being nice. Kindness is not just about being nice, but also about respect.

You can change, even if you don't want to.